How is LokiDB the official successor of LokiJS?

[beruic]

I'm submitting a...

[ ] Regression (a behavior that used to work and stopped working in a new release)
[ ] Bug report  
[ ] Feature request
[x] Documentation issue or request
[ ] Support request => Please do not submit support request here, instead see https://github.com/LokiJS-Forge/LokiDB/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#question

Current behavior

https://github.com/LokiJS-Forge/LokiDB claims that

LokiDB is the official successor of LokiJS.

, but I cannot find any reference stating this at LokiJS.

Expected behavior

If it was really so, I'd expect LokiJS to make an official reference to LokiDB.

[xkem]

^^^^^^^

[lustremedia]

As it looks, lokiDB is a typescript port of lokiJS ... maybe that is a natural progression?

[beruic]

@lustremedia I'm putting an emphasis on the word "official" here. The point is that nothing in the legacy seems to validate this as an official successor.

[lustremedia]

@beruic yeah sure, my "natural progression" was more or less a shrug ¯_(ツ)_/¯ comment ... I forget about emotions online sometimes

[Viatorus]

The owner of LokiJS (techfort) is the same owner as this group of LokiDB.

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On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 12:38 Jimmy Merrild Krag ***@***.***> wrote: @lustremedia <https://github.com/lustremedia> I'm putting an emphasis on the word *"official"* here. The point is that nothing in the legacy seems to validate this as an *official* successor. — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#190 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AA3YFF552IFRD3GEHQR2S5TT4OQDTANCNFSM42APGFMA> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&utm_campaign=notification-email> .

[beruic]

@Viatorus I thought about this, but @techfort is not listed under https://github.com/orgs/LokiJS-Forge/people, so I still fail to see this relation. Is it under another username? :)

Nevertheless, I started this issue because I was wondering. I still don't see any evidence of your claim being true @Viatorus, but I guess that as a member of the group, your statement at least hold some weight to it.

[Viatorus]

There also exist private member. ;) And I think this would clear any uncertainty: techfort/LokiJS#525 (comment) Nevertheless, I think if someone wants to use and modernize LokiJS/DB, this repository is a good starting point. I tried my best converting it to TypeScript and improving it. I am proud of the full text search feature or the fast lookup tree from obeliskos. But I don't really use LokiDB (web technology in general) very much. If any want to continue, please let me know. :)

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 12:42 Jimmy Merrild Krag ***@***.***> wrote: @Viatorus <https://github.com/Viatorus> I thought about this, but @techfort <https://github.com/techfort> is not listed under https://github.com/orgs/LokiJS-Forge/people, so I still fail to see this relation. Is it under another username? :) Nevertheless, I started this issue because I was wondering. I still don't see any evidence of your claim being true @Viatorus <https://github.com/Viatorus>, but I guess that as a member of the group, your statement at least hold some weight to it. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#190 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AA3YFF5YJY6GG2NWSUWN4LLT5OFAVANCNFSM42APGFMA> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&utm_campaign=notification-email> .

[beruic]

I guess it's a wrap then :)

[elmarti]

I've made a few suggestions, but they may detract from the original functionality a little too much, so it may be a case of forking

[elmarti]

I'm a few weeks away from a proper release, but I've built similar database with a Mongo API here:
https://github.com/elmarti/camadb/tree/develop

For me this resolves the tickets I opened on this project:

• Rename meta field  #193
• Batch larger serialisations #194

It currently does not have indexing, but i'm seeing comparable speeds

[Bessonov]

@elmarti great! I'm looking for a fast, persistent and typescript based db solution. But I like a reactive approach. I can see only two projects for that requirement:

• WatermelonDB. It's still used on an older project. Overall great and fast, but strange ideas around primary keys (you have very little control over them) and around synchronization makes it unusable for me.
• RxDB. This is the current solution, but I'm not happy about the weight (there is some work was done in 10th version) and some flakiness on initialization/destroying. But I think it's more related to many abstractions rxdb -> pouchdb -> indexeddb. With last architectural changes we have possibility to drop pouchdb, but not implemented yet.

One thing you may keep in mind is the possibility to migrate the existing schema and data.

[elmarti]

Subscriptions/observables/update streaming is definitely in my periphery, but no concrete ideas as of yet, but here are some of the things i'll be adding in the coming weeks for the sake of the project i'm working on:

• Synchronisation adapter interface - ability to connect to synchronize with any service like MongoDB realm (I want to add some kind of transaction support, this is not supported by Realm)
• Collection streaming - the internals already support this, just needs exposure via an API/researching the ideal way to expose this e.g callbacks, observables, async iterator etc
• Exposure of persistence interface - ability to provide a custom implementation for serialization
• UI composer - ability to bind UI components to the data - not a lot of ideas about this yet

If you have a specific request feel free to open a ticket on the repo or PR, I don't want to keep poking the Loki community 😄