Downloaded python toolchain has shared library dependencies

[malt3]

🐞 bug report

Affected Rule

n/a

Is this a regression?

no

Description

The python toolchains downloaded by this rule depend on an (outdated) version of the glibc.
This does not work for a number of environments.
Maybe a statically linked python binary or different versions of the toolchains could be provided instead.
I'd be happy to help work on a more hermetic (as in: not relying on system-wide libraries) python toolchain.

🔬 Minimal Reproduction

Register any of the builtin python toolchain for download, find thy python3 binary in the cache and run:

ldd /home/malte/.cache/bazel/_bazel_malte/e58bd5cf140e0accfbab91a2f501a0a3/external/python3_10_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/python3
        linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd062db000)
        /home/malte/.cache/bazel/_bazel_malte/e58bd5cf140e0accfbab91a2f501a0a3/external/python3_10_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/../lib/libpython3.10.so.1.0 (0x00007fcef8400000)
        libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1 (0x00007fcef996a000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fcef9965000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fcef9960000)
        libutil.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libutil.so.1 (0x00007fcef995b000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007fcef9872000)
        librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007fcef986d000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fcef8000000)
        /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fcef99c5000)

As you can see, the library has versioned glibc dependencies. This is problematic in environments with newer glibcs (arch linux, fedora) or environments that use different libcs (alpine) or don't always provide a "default" glibc for tools (nix / nixos).

🔥 Exception or Error

When using Fedora as a host system, the build fails like this:

❯ bazel run @python3_10//:python3
INFO: Invocation ID: 8c2857a4-fd52-4757-9e09-9a8fa88e2440
INFO: Build option --//bazel/settings:tpm_simulator has changed, discarding analysis cache.
INFO: Analyzed target @python3_10//:python3 (1 packages loaded, 17 targets configured).
INFO: Found 1 target...
Target @python3_10_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu//:bin/python3 up-to-date (nothing to build)
INFO: Elapsed time: 1.148s, Critical Path: 0.12s
INFO: 1 process: 1 internal.
INFO: Build completed successfully, 1 total action
INFO: Running command line: /home/builder/.cache/bazel/_bazel_builder/eab0d61a99b6696edb3d2aff87b585e8/external/python3_10_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/python3
/home/builder/.cache/bazel/_bazel_builder/eab0d61a99b6696edb3d2aff87b585e8/external/python3_10_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/python3: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

The OS provides /usr/lib64/libcrypt.so.2, but not libcrypt.so.1.

🌍 Your Environment

Operating System(s):

• Fedora 37, Fedora 38
• NixOS

Output of bazel version:

Build label: 6.1.2
Build target: bazel-out/k8-opt/bin/src/main/java/com/google/devtools/build/lib/bazel/BazelServer_deploy.jar
Build time: Tue Apr 18 15:29:54 2023 (1681831794)
Build timestamp: 1681831794
Build timestamp as int: 1681831794

Rules_python version:

0.21.0

Anything else relevant?

This issue exists: #716, but the bug was not actually fixed here.
Forcing downstream users to install old glibc versions system wide seems like it will become harder over time.

[chrislovecnm]

Forcing downstream users to install old glibc versions system-wide seems like it will become harder over time.

What version of pre-packaged Python do you recommend that runs on multiple platforms? We are using https://github.com/indygreg/python-build-standalone/, and they also would need to address this issue.

You can also define base_url in the python_register_toolchains to a different downloadable Python bundle URL. The package's naming needs to map to the naming standard used in https://github.com/bazelbuild/rules_python/blob/main/python/versions.bzl.

The other option is to use a system interpreter instead of a hermetic interpreter.

[malt3]

Looking at python-build-standalone, I would like to select x86_64-unknown-linux-musl instead of x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu (see also), since it ships everything statically linked.
In this case, the base url would stay the same.
Is this currently possible or would i need to tweak the bazel ruleset?

[chrislovecnm]

So first off I agree with you that we should change the rules to use a statically linked python. Secondly you probably can use https://blog.aspect.dev/configuring-bazels-downloader to rewrite the downloaded package.

[malt3]

Just since the static version is unable to load .so libraries at runtime, it may still be required to let users choose.
That being said, I have no idea if that's a widely used feature or more of a niche thing..

[chrislovecnm]

At this point the rules decide for the user which binary to use, and we also test against those binaries. If you feel that users should have the choice, then at this point users can decide through configuring the downloadeder. I think you can override the name of the binary and even download it from GitHub.

Why would a user want to use a binary that is linked the older libraries? We have a Python special interest group, and if you would want to join us it is a great topic for us to discuss.

[malt3]

I'm not super deep in the inner workings of python libraries, but if I understand it correctly, some python libraries ship precompiled shared libraries that the python interpreter will load dynamically.
The musl version of the python toolchain cannot do that, so users might run into unexpected problems if this is the default.
For me personally, that is not an issue.
Happy to explain in a SIG meeting but also not the best person to give a detailed rundown of this problem.

[rickeylev]

This level of C and platform stuff is a bit outside my expertise, so I asked a couple coworkers who know more.

re: using musl: I'm told musl is a different implementation of libc, so there are potential ABI issues with something on PyPI (which, iiuc, assumes glibc as part of a wheel's "manylinux" definition). This means we can't use musl as the default.

That said, I think it should be easier to use a musl-based interpreter than patching and overriding URLs. Is this something we can auto detect and use? The info I found says that certain platforms use musl. Can, should, the toolchain logic detect if you're running e.g. fedora or alpine, and use musl if so?

re: using static linking: Maybe? I think this depends on what is being statically linked into the interpreter and what prebuilt things on PyPI expect. I'm also told that you generally don't want to statically link certain libraries (e.g. libc) because those are how you interact with the host system APIs. Again, this is a bit outside my expertise. If standalone python doesn't provide a glibc-based statically linked interpreter build, then this is a bit moot.

[aignas]

FYI, some PyPI packages have musl wheels being distributed next to the manylinux wheels which are glibc. Example: https://pypi.org/project/coverage/#files

We should probably add a libc constraint somewhere to make sure that we can register both, musl and glibc python interpreters and then let the toolchain resolution do what needs to be done, but it seems that the discussion for having this in @platforms has not been resolved yet: bazelbuild/platforms#38.

[malt3]

Yeah the musl platform and in theory also auto detection would work in cases where you have a dynamically linked musl libc and are on alpine or similar.
My use case is that I want to be independent of what's provided/preinstalled on the host (hence the statically linked interpreter).
I would like to have some kind of selector for the kind of toolchain when registering it (choice between dynamically linked with glibc, statically linked with musl, maybe more in the future).

I'm also told that you generally don't want to statically link certain libraries (e.g. libc) because those are how you interact with the host system APIs

This is definitely true for glibc. With musl this is not a problem if the kernel is recent enough.

[chrislovecnm]

Where is this issue at?

[malt3]

Nobody has attempted to implement this yet.
I don't have the capacity work on it at the moment.
If anybody wants to try, I'd be super happy to see this moving forward.
Maybe I can work on this some time in the future.

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