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@Trott Trott commented Sep 9, 2017

Bans are definted as temporary or indefinite, but then usage later
on is all about temporary vs. permanent. This change makes the
terminology consistent throughout the policy.

Additionally, it re-orders some text so that temporary always appears
before indefinite.

Bans are definted as _temporary_ or _indefinite_, but then usage later
on is all about _temporary_ vs. _permanent_. This change makes the
terminology consistent throughout the policy.

Additionally, it re-orders some text so that _temporary_ always appears
before _indefinite_.
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Trott commented Sep 9, 2017

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mscdex commented Sep 9, 2017

I wonder if we should be careful about word choice here. To me, 'permanent' implies that there will never be any chance of the ban being lifted, whereas 'indefinite' merely implies there is no defined duration of the ban, so it could be lifted at any point in the future.

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Trott commented Sep 9, 2017

I wonder if we should be careful about word choice here.

I suspect indefinite was initially used to signal that something isn't completely irreversible. One upside is that it may mean we're more likely to actually use an indefinite/permanent ban if it's called indefinite. There may be a psychological resistance against doing something "permanently" that isn't there against doing something "indefinitely" even though they amount to the same thing in some contexts.

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mscdex commented Sep 9, 2017

Right, but I'm just saying it's important that we all agree on what meaning/wording we really want because I do believe there is a distinction and we should not just pass this off as a simple consistency-seeking PR.

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LGTM

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ofrobots commented Sep 9, 2017 via email

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gibfahn commented Sep 9, 2017

Agree with @mscdex that this is a decision, and +1 for indefinite, I think that more accurately reflects most bans.

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+1 for indefinite

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LGTM

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LGTM, like indefinite better.

A Temporary Ban is time limited, with the timeframe decided on by the Moderation
Team at the time of issuing, depending on the severity of the issue. Recommended
default options are 24-hour, 48-hour, and 7-day periods.

An Indefinite Ban is set for an unspecified period of time and may only be
lifted for an individual through a simple majority vote of the the Moderation
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Nit: There are two "the"s here. I see that it was already there, but now that it is moved around, I think we can do this small change.

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jasnell commented Sep 14, 2017

Landing given the lack of objections

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